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Jean-Pierre CROZEMARIE PremierFarnell 16 posts since
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Feb 26, 2010 7:33 AM

Element-14 on Wikipedia

Hi

Just to let everybody know…If you search for Facebook on Wikipedia, you will find an long article on the Social Network etc…If you search for Element 14 on Wikipedia you will learn everything on Silicon but unfortunately nothing on the first community dedicated to Electronic Design Engineers. So, if someone would like to write an article and post it on Wikipedia it could be interesting for promoting Element -14 community Cheers
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Andrew Novice 16 posts since
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1. Jul 5, 2010 12:58 PM in response to: Jean-Pierre CROZEMARIE
Wikipedia is corrupt

Why?

Wikipedia is by morons for morons.

That's why you find an article there on just about any private company. But you would not be able to make your own input there, especially if it is criticism of the subject. Maybe the administrators even get paid for corruption, for placement of advertisement and protection of it.

 

They self indulge in being a community of editors. They select morons into their ranks, and exclude anything sensible. There are many such rotten supposedly public indices. - "dmoz.org" is another example.

In fact they are controlled by a mob. That's a proper name for their administrators.

Donald Miller Newbie 1 posts since
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2. Jul 6, 2010 5:09 AM in response to: Andrew
Re: Wikipedia is corrupt

I use Wikipedia on a daily basis and find it very informative, I do hope that doesnt make me a moron Andrew

 

Agree that a page for element14 would be useful. ill keep an eye out for any updates... although I now know a lot more about Silicon!

Andrew Novice 16 posts since
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3. Jul 9, 2010 3:16 AM in response to: Donald Miller
Re: Wikipedia is corrupt

What you find useful on wikipedia is entirely your own business.

The fact that it is made for morons does not preclude smart people from accessing it and source their delusions from it. It is not an exclusive club. The same goes for television. It is mostly dumb, but many smart people may watch it... and gradually degrade...

 

You have missed my point. I was not only generalizing. I also wrote examples: you can't enter smart content in wikipedia, and you can't change the corrupt ways of their self proclaimed administrators, once such administrators hijack the system.

Common sense is just not there. They create stupid rules of exclusion, then they hide behind them, stubbornly repeating rubbish and diverting discussion into nonsense. They refuse to see any way to change the rules.

I talk from experience.

 

Your experience is different. So be it. You only read wikipedia. You do not try to change it, to contribute, or to question it. You just consume it.

 

I do not find anything useful on wikipedia

Maybe I would, if I were looking for some reading fudge, fillage, jokes, and entertainment...

 

Message was edited by: Alistair Winning

Andrei Sosnin Newbie 4 posts since
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4. Jul 29, 2010 2:56 AM in response to: Jean-Pierre CROZEMARIE
Re: Element-14 on Wikipedia

If you look at this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element14, you'll see, that it has been deleted twice for the same reason: the article that was there did not put any credible claim of significance or importance of this community. In layman's terms, what this means is that the articles written there were crap and did not convince moderators that the Element-14 community was important enough to be placed on Wikipedia.

 

It only takes to write a good article for it to be accepted. The reason why Facebook article is there, is that it's well written, with multiple references and multiple claims of (rather major) significance, for example.

Enrico Migchels Expert 131 posts since
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5. Jul 29, 2010 7:50 AM in response to: Andrei Sosnin
Re: Element-14 on Wikipedia

Guys,

 

Sites like Element-14 are competitors for Wikipedia, i can understand why there can be no link from 1 site to the other.

I don't even see the need for the link, probably the guys from Wikimedia had the same conclusion (they are extremely biased!).

 

Best regards, Enrico Migchels

Andrei Sosnin Newbie 4 posts since
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6. Jul 29, 2010 8:36 AM in response to: Enrico Migchels
Re: Element-14 on Wikipedia

LOL, what?! Can you back up your claims somehow? There is a pretty damn good reason for an article about Element14 not being on Wikipedia. It's well-documented on the website itself (as much as it deserves credit anyway, since two attempts at writing a description ended up disapproved by the moderators...).

 

I hope these Wikipedia bashers are not representative of the whole Element14 community, because I really hoped for a more constructive and rational one, when joining it....

 

Judging from the website's structure, the only kind of community-type resource Element14 could be competing would be something like Experts Exchange, Stack Overflow and AvrFreaks, but aimed at electronics engineers.

Enrico Migchels Expert 131 posts since
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7. Jul 29, 2010 8:31 AM in response to: Andrei Sosnin
Re: Element-14 on Wikipedia

Andrej,

 

We have to face that Wikipedia does not allow to link to other websites... They make up the rules, I can fully relate to that. Maybe we also have to stop the discussion about sites like Wikipedia :-)

altough I visit the wikipedia site quite often. I believe that their knowledge base is somewhat broader than my brain is offering me ;-)

 

Best regards, Enrico Migchels

Andrei Sosnin Newbie 4 posts since
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8. Jul 29, 2010 9:01 AM in response to: Enrico Migchels
Re: Element-14 on Wikipedia
We have to face that making unsubstantiated claims never helps a discussion.
Andrei Sosnin Newbie 4 posts since
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9. Jul 29, 2010 8:50 AM in response to: Enrico Migchels
Re: Element-14 on Wikipedia
Sorry, duplicate
Enrico Migchels Expert 131 posts since
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10. Jul 29, 2010 9:01 AM in response to: Andrei Sosnin
Re: Element-14 on Wikipedia
Andrej,
Just read on the Wikisite: rejected article because 'articles about a web site, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject'.
Element14 as a web site is not intesting to post, you can only post content...
Best regards, Enrico Migchdels

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